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Four Stages of Synergy

Oct 8, 2021 10:52:02 PM

We saw Ken's presentation on the Money Show - he really DID kill it!  How can Water on Demand's simple elegant subscription model empower communities to solve water locally?  Can fully decentralized water micro-utilities replace the need for outside infrastructure? Find out!


Transcript from recording



Riggs Eckelberry

And good evening, everyone, it's Thursday once again and so much to bring you up to date on, so let's get right started while people are arriving.


WITNG title


This is Water is the  New Gold, "Helping you thrive in the world's ONLY vital, scarce and recession-proof market."  Aqua Arum, Novum Est, which is my schoolboy Latin version of Water is the New Gold. I'm still waiting for somebody to challenge me on that because. Well, maybe it's perfect, anyway.


Spanish translation


We are available in Spanish, always in real time, just simply click on the globe symbol at the bottom and you will be hearing Heather, faithfully talking Spanish. Probably better than that, I'm speaking in English. It's my guess anyway.


Safe harbor


Continuing, we have the usual safe harbor statement. Basically, everything we say is believed, anticipated, et cetera, and we correct it as we go. But of course, we could be wrong. So remember that.


Crypto update


Water Coin for the World

All right. Moving right along here we have an update on crypto, as you recall. We have a two token system. The one token is the old one, old just because we came up with it first. Dollar Sign H2O, which is intended to be a dividend wrapper for Water on Demand™. And we've basically de-emphasized that for now because it's not mission critical. We can deliver dividends using the old fashioned way. And so we're focusing on the more revolutionary item, which is ClearAqua™, which is a world community token and it is what we think is going to be the water coin for the world. So let's take a look at where we stand.


ClearAqua next steps


Legal Steps

As you know, we the white paper was delivered by our developers well before one October, which is great. And as I told you last week, legal owed us... First of all, I had to find a law firm, which I did, and an outstanding law firm that I've known for some years now and a good friend of mine. And he's very confident that he will get us the exact parameters to be a proper utility token.


Proper Utility Token

Now what? Why is that important?  In the U.S. , if you're, if you don't show that you are a quote unquote utility token, then you're considered a security and you can only be marketed to accredited investors, which means the one percent. Well, the whole point about crypto is this universal. So whereas dollar H2O, is going to be a security and we have no problem with that because it's all about dividends to these accredited investors. We want ClearAqua to be universal. And so it's very important that this be a utility token. What is a utility token? Essentially, it means that people are rewarded for working. They contribute to the system and the system rewards them as opposed to investing and getting some kind of return, which would make it a security. That's a very, very lame way to explain it. And please excuse any inaccuracies on that. But that's how I understand it.


Marketing Agency

All right. We retained the crypto experienced marketing agency and the first planning schedule session is scheduled. And finally, there's some additional research about managing decentralized autonomous organizations, which our developers are reviewing. Ok, so that's where that stands.


Virtual Money Show


Great Attendance

And the amazing Ken Berenger, who's on with us tonight, joined us. He went ahead and took care of the Money Show on five October. And I must say, Ken you did a fine, fine job. Well, actually, we're going to go ahead and judge you. We're going to the judges panel. This is what the dashboard looks like right now, and it's got all these things. And what's cool about this show is that we had one hundred and fifty eight people in real time watching Ken's presentation. Now I've done presentations at Money Show like, for example, LD Micro at the Lux Hotel in L.A., and there were 30 people in the room. There weren't 158. So that's the beautiful part about these virtual events, right?


Money Show


About Money Show

Ok, so with that, welcome to the show, Ken.  Give me a little sense of what it was like to be on the show.

Ken: Well, OK, so you and I worked on that four part synergy stack. And it's funny because we're working on this in the background for months and months and months and months. But literally the first time I looked at that presentation was two minutes before the show. And, you know, no pressure. I mean, yeah, that's fine. So I said, Oh, geez, you know, this is going to be hard. But you know what? It's because what we did, we've worked on it so much and it really fell into place and it made a lot of sense.

I will tell you that the show itself seems to attract a lot of really smart, sophisticated people. We've gotten some feedback on some early emails that we're sending. I think it was a big hit. I think that this is now the preferred having gone to one of the live shows. I think the virtual show is actually a much more. A rich environment to meet the right people.

You know, because it's kind of. You're not obligated to, you know, get out of your slippers if you don't need to. Right? You can kind of just log in and see some really smart people talk about what's going on with money and finance. So I think that's why it was we had such a good showing.

Riggs:  Well, people don't get out of that slippers in Vegas, either, but that's another story.

Ken: I was in Vegas. I can I can attest to that. Yes.

Riggs: Well, without further ado, let's play. Let's play what you presented and then we'll have a little wrap up at the end. So here we go. Let's let's see what. Let's see how you did.


Start of video presentation


Show Host: Good afternoon, everybody, and thank you for joining the session. My name is Joe Fitzgerald Money Show. I'll be your host this afternoon. Two bits of housekeeping. We're going to get right into the presentation. First and foremost, we want to thank everybody who attends these events. They've been extremely successful over the last two years. Keep your comments, feedback suggestions coming to us here at Money Show. We read every one of them and it gets us better and better. But again, thank you for attending these events.

Secondly, Ken, after his presentation, we're going to get to as many questions as we can at the end. So there is a chat box that's on your desktop. Shoot those questions over to us during the session and then, like I said, time permitting. Ken, we'll get to as many as we can.

With that said, it's my great pleasure to introduce to everybody. Ken Berenger, who is the vice president of development for OriginClear. As vice president of the Water Technology Company of OriginClear, Ken is a 30 year veteran in public and private equity and co-creator, co-strategist of OriginClear's visionary and highly disruptive Water on Demand strategy that helps rapidly decentralize the world's water treatment. Without further ado, I'd like to introduce everybody to Ken. Ken the floor is yours, sir.


Ken B on Money Show 1280

Water Company 2.0

Ken:  Hi and good afternoon, and thanks for joining again, my name is Ken Berenger, and thanks for your time on. I'm sure it's a busy schedule. So OriginClear, we positioned ourselves to when we call ourselves Water Company 2.0. Like every other industry, water is massively decentralizing entertainment. Cellular, Amazon, Netflix all have altered forever their industries by decentralizing. So who will serve this new decentralization? We feel we're very well positioned to do just that.

No one really needs to be told that our world's water is very, very bad. We're in the middle of a global water crisis. 80 percent of the planet dumps agricultural and industrial waste directly into waterways. No treatment whatsoever now, primarily because no water treatment infrastructure exists there and probably never will. And I'll explain to you why that is in just a few moments and how we can overcome it.


Water Stress

Three billion people live under severe water distress. This is largely because eighty four percent of the world's freshwater is consumed by and polluted by agriculture and industry. So the idea is, if you just fix it there, it improves everywhere. So a big part of the reason massive infrastructure for water, conveyance and treatment won't happen in these places is the collapse of taxpayer funding. It's primarily fallen on the private sector, who need a more nimble, less capital intensive strategy. Just here in the U.S., we've gone from sixty three percent of water infrastructure being paid by tax dollars, down to nine percent. So yesterday's funding is gone.


Traditional Won't Work

But. We know that using the traditional model for water treatment and conveyance is not going to work, you know, fixing the world's water with decades of digging holes and millions of miles of pipes, trillions of dollars of waste is just as impossible as millions of miles of wires and trillions of dollars of telecom infrastructure was in places like Africa and Asia 20 years ago. Yet as we sit here, a billion people are connected on those continents today through decentralization, and so it shall be with us.


Newsweek article


So what's the solution? Well, it's a couple of different parts. But in an article dated October 4th Twenty Twenty One, our own CEO published an article in Newsweek to talk about the solution from an innovators standpoint, essentially. And as you can see here, the water treatment system is broken. If we tackle the water shortage crisis, we have to go to the responsible parties who are producing wastewater.

So if we put the responsibility of wastewater treatment on the producers of wastewater, not government, who will siphon it away, you solve the problem by doing to water what cell phones do to telecom.


Decentralizing Water

Now, the interesting part is decentralized water treatment infrastructure is key. If you can boost water recycling, we can buffer ourselves against the impact of water shortage. And it's by the right investments now that we can make sure that our children and their children have safe water to drink. The future of water treatment needs to be decentralized. That's going to be a common theme in my discussion, and this was just in our Newsweek article, and you can you can go to Newsweek.com to read that article in its entirety. So decentralizing water is the key, and it also represents a potentially colossal wealth creation opportunity so businesses can do their own water treatment they have.


Money Show - rising water rates


As you can see here, rising water rates really create a once in a lifetime opportunity, but you have to be able to cut the cord so. What we want to do is create local corporate self-help at the point of discharge to create a second water revolution. So not only is total decentralization of water a colossal wealth creation potential, but with water rates exploding, as you can see here, far faster than ordinary inflation.

This new decentralized asset class could become a phenomenal defense against inflation. I mean, look at the difference between water rates and ordinary deflation. So if you're worried about inflation and most people are, we think that this will emerge as a real favorable asset class.


Fixing It All

So there are areas that. Can we can most impact change are the places that are the most ubiquitous out there. Small businesses, remote locations, commonly they have one major obstacle that would need to overcome, and that is that they universally lack capital. What if we could fix that?

Well, the technology to treat the water everywhere, even places without infrastructure, already exists. We have them as some as so do others. These systems would need to be linked. And in an Amazon-like type of marketplace. And then if you can solve the capital conundrum, you can fix it all.


Accelerated Disruption

So let's look at that. Connecting every consumer in the world to every retailer in the world has already been proven. Amazon took 20 years to do it, but now it's the largest retailer on the planet bar none. And early players experience life altering wealth creation. What if we could speed that up?

So we've got the twenty first century version of the modern world. The technology already exists to do this at point of use. We can connect it all with a proven method like Amazon did. Now, if we can take that and speed up the process, we've got a real tiger by the tail.

So using fintech, which didn't exist 15 years ago when these big innovations happened, we could recreate world-changing disruptions. In more recent memory cellular, telecom, video streaming, even retail with Amazon. Now we at this time, we could do it in water.

Now the difference is with water. The effort could also avoid millions of illnesses and deaths in the future. We have the answer, and I'm going to lay it out for you. But first, just a little bit about us. Ok.


About OriginClear

Name of the company is OriginClear. Public symbol on the OTC pink is OCLN. Company was founded in 2008. And what we've done is we've spent this time achieving classic water engineering with decentralized technology. We've got unique capabilities designed for businesses doing their own water treatment at the point of discharge.


Four Stages of Synergy

First Stage

These capabilities are delivered in kind of four stages of synergy, and I'll lay them out for you. First, twenty five year, it's our core fabrication capacity. Twenty five year business build to order in Texas, they can build anything from fifty thousand to five million dollars.

Now business has really been taking off our book sales for year over year, from twenty twenty to twenty twenty one have more than tripled on nearly tripled. And that's just the start. Ok, now this growth is really far and away well above what the water industry normally experiences. They generally see pretty modest growth of about 10 percent a year. This growth is many times that average, obviously, and decentralizing everything may allow us to continue a sustained growth. Um, with a whole decentralized product line.

Second Stage

Ok, so that brings in the Modular Water Systems™. It's our revolutionary,  modular, drop in place, Water Systems in a Box™. They're able to solve big water problems with small onsite water systems. So what this does is it's a micro-utility placed at the point of discharge. This dramatically opens up where we can treat water effectively that previously had no options.

For example, 80 percent of the world where no water infrastructure even exists or likely ever will. These already sell really well, and because there's a lot of advantages, they're lighter, they're cheaper, they're more durable and they're portable. So I believe this is a big part of the reason we saw such phenomenal growth last year, year over year. So in this stage two, we make water treatment available to anywhere it's needed.


Modular Water - cut the cord

Third Stage

Now next is the stage that gives us the ability to open it up to anyone, regardless of capital a credit. And that's Modular Water, OK? The first phase of Water on Demand is designed to deliver a fully decentralized micro utility to all businesses. We've already sold these systems to these businesses like housing developments, animal farms, mobile home parks, RV campgrounds, assembly plants. The list goes on and on. We've currently had the ability to build and drop and deliver and commission these systems at points of discharge. Ok, so that's been working well, we've done it the old fashioned way through a relatively slow sales cycle.

This is where we're changing that. We're changing it through Water on Demand. So, it's really what it is, is it's a pay as you go program, just like solar power purchase agreement. There's no big capital expenditures. There's nothing upfront. You can transform yourself as a business from selling a high end item to simply blessing customers with the system.

Now, it's a lot easier to sell a million dollar piece of industrial equipment if the end user doesn't have to pay for it. Right? That's a lot easier. Ask, And these systems really remain owned by us, so the assets are designed to assist us in eventually uplifting the company to the Nasdaq.

So finally, Water on Demand completely solves the capital conundrum. And it essentially creates a new asset class of micro utilities whereby nobody is priced out of the market. So instead of just increasing our own client base, we can globalize this and create the world's second water revolution. So we get to bless these businesses with a solution without paying for it with no upfront cost.

Water Purchase Agreement

Here's a little bit on how that works. So first, the end user would sign a water purchase agreement like a power purchase agreement with the effluent quality, the water quality already contracted into the agreement. Other than that, it works very similar to your current arrangement for internet, telecom, electric service, water.

There's two differences. Those facilities deliver the service from someplace else through infrastructure, whether that's wires or pipes, and it's delivered to your building. You're buying the milk, but they own the cow.

This service will be delivered from on site without the need from outside infrastructure because it's all solved at point of discharge. We'll continue to own the cow, but the end user only pays for the milk that they actually use. Remote monitoring, twenty four hours a day, seven days a week, guarantees every drop of water passing through the system meets the contracted quality standard, or they don't pay.

Now that's the second main difference. All those services I mentioned previously: water, internet phones, cell, electric, they charge you regardless of water quality. Excuse me, of quality of service whereby we wouldn't hang up, the end user gets to own, gets to possess this thing without any upfront money, and he only, he doesn't get stuck paying for water quality that's less than what it was advertised. We make sure it's right, twenty-four seven.


Ken WOD simple, elegant subscription

Subscription Model

So what we've created here is a simple, elegant subscription model. It's a fully outsourced water treatment. It's a micro utility place where it's most needed with no upfront cost. We handle everything, so we go from salesmen to focusing on decades of service where, as we know, manage services the margins are many, many times that of a one time sale.

So the benefit to the end user, the client, benefit to the world, it's fairly obvious. It makes treating water everywhere possible. The benefit to us, to shareholders, to the water industry more broadly. It's, the model is much, much more profitable. So here's how solving the capital problem without government money, government spending or taxation really helps solve the issue.



We have a financing in place. Manhattan Street Capital is helping us launch and that's been launched already, a $300 million fund. It's a SPAC like vehicle. So as you can see here, we've got $300 million. This would essentially think of oil and gas LPs. These would be $20 million companies that own $20 million worth of equipment that are going to be placed on site to deliver water treatment wherever they're needed on a contract basis.

We'll retain two hundred and ninety nine million dollars of assets, so it's easy to get a billion dollar valuation when a third of that is in assets producing almost $6 billion over twenty five years in in revenue, which is terrific, right? So the idea is this begins a cycle that we believe of Wall Street funded, um, micro utilities that create a new asset class.

So what we want to do is there's no world water marketplace. And why is that? Because all water is local, but an international network could enable this marketplace, so what previous disruptive innovations took, Amazon, Netflix, cell phones, they took decades.


Ken presentation - ClearAqua

Stage Four

We plan to add something that we think could accelerate this to occur in a fraction of the time, potentially. And that's our dual token strategy, but we're focusing right now on our on the most on the most on the shortest term launch, which is ClearAqua™. So ClearAqua empowers communities to solve water problems at local points.

So here you have a ClearAqua community. There may be a million token holders that have been incentivized in one way or another to point out or highlight water problems that exist. There may be a million suggestions out there that get filtered down through delegates, so delegates are like your Congress, like a representative democracy.

They'll filter it down to a manageable number. Those will go In the form of proposals, as you can see here, and clearaqua.org will be a neutral party, a neutral arbiter, an ombudsman. They will use water expertise, these will primarily be civil engineers, water engineers, they'll be able to look at what is most feasible based on the on what's available out there to be able to deliver these at the point of discharge.

Ok, let me go back to that screen. Excuse me. So now ClearAqua decides which projects are going to be placed down using the capital already raised through our SPAC like fund, Ok. These are immediately built by our own internal manufacturing force, but almost immediately after that, we're going to need to bring in several other parties because the job will be big and will want everyone to join in the process and they make more money doing this.

So what are problems of finally place down at the point of discharge, where they're really solving problems, generating tremendous dividends. If I go back to this previous the dividends paid out to the capital investment holders, it's almost a half a billion dollars over a twenty five year period. So I think that's going to be very, very attractive to people leery about certain assets that are out there right now. Ok, so this ends up going back to capital.


Recap of Stages

Ok, so that's how we stack this in a nutshell. So just to tick them off again and remind. Stage One: we can build anything, anywhere capability from fifty thousand to five million Stage Two: Modular Water patented water systems that can go anywhere they're needed. Ok. Stage Three: Take the thing that's superior that can go anywhere and make it a no upfront capital cost to the end user and make it more profitable on the back end. Create a micro utility asset class and Stage Four: digital currency to enable water communities to potentially create a worldwide water market, but also accelerate a worldwide change in how water, water, how water is dealt with.


Tying it together

About the Offering

So here's what it looks like. I'm going to tie it all together for you. I'm going to lay out three stages and events and how these events create far greater valuation. We believe for us as a company and for investors, time frame on these things are going to run somewhere between three months and thirty six months.

First things first. The initial investment you're buying into a preferred stock, the company trades publicly, but it's a it's a small penny stock right now, so you're going to be able to convert your investment at one hundred and fifty percent of principal at the time you make the decision.

The stock is 10 cents  when you invest in the preferred and you convert it five cents, you'll get twice as many shares, but you'll still get 50 percent above your principal and vice versa on the upside. So it's called price protection, and we tried to put our early, early investors in a position where even if the stock is slow to perform, you do extremely well.

But here's why we think we do extremely well. Ok, as we see growth in the common market, you'll have the opportunity to take money off the table or keep it, up to you. And then you have four distinct liquidity events. Up to four warrants present in this preferred stock offering.


Future Events

So this is about a thirty six month view in all, I'm going to give you about the next year, year and a half. Within the next 90 or one hundred and twenty days, the initial Water on Demand fund will be launched.

We'll have the ClearAqua network, we think maybe by as early as January 1st. I think we can create an international digital currency community and these first water-as-a-service contracts will be launched. I think this, combined with really, really strong outreach to the world on what we're doing and how we're solving a problem, could generate a lot of interest in our little market that goes out to the end of this year, early next.

By mid next year, the Water on Demand programs begin to generate real assets. Again, this is a $300 million asset we hope to finally possess in a couple of years, but maybe by next year, maybe it's some small portion of that, OK? I think that we'll see increased activity with a ClearAqua.

I think we'll have additional water companies also paying profit, you know. Also manufacturing these things services, these with us. And we are also going to turn to our PhilanthroInvestors® network, which helps generate interest internationally in 14 different countries.

So by mid next year, I think a lot of things are in motion. So finally, twenty twenty three, what we're looking at is we hit that three hundred million in capital. Maybe we're working with dozens of companies worldwide. We launched that portal, the same portal that helped fund Impossible Foods. If you've heard of that company, you know that they went, they're going to be going public soon. We're working with the same firm, and I believe that well before the $300 million mark, our assets are sufficient to trade to Nasdaq, and that's our goal.



So a new micro utility asset class is born. It's a great alternative to oil and gas and commercial real estate. Where our stock is at that point, I really can't speculate, but this is all we feel within reach, with our vision and with your vision. You can be like previous early adopters whose lives were changed by changing the world. Except this time the act of doing that can also prevent millions of illnesses and deaths and have life altering wealth creation potential as well. So as you saw the $300 million pro forma generating six billion in revenue over twenty five years, I think should be sufficient to trade us to Nasdaq.

So that's it in a nutshell, and that's these are my words. I'm going to play for you. A brief two minute video, a three minute video that tells the story from both the side of my CEO and our brilliant chief engineer, Dan Early, who was the creator of a lot of these portable micro utilities that I've described, and you can get to see it from their side and how some of these are right on site already working.


Start of video presentation

Dan Early at Alabama MHP


Dan: We are onsite at the mobile home park and we are installing the Pondster™ 30K biofilm bioreactor system as part of an upgrade to the lagoon treatment system that's been in service here for over 50 years.


MHP sewage lagoon


This is a classic example of what decentralized wastewater utilities looked like 50 years ago. Not much has changed. If you don't have access to public sewer, you have to provide your own onsite wastewater treatment prior to disposing of your wastewater.


Riggs MHP presentation

RiggsBack in 2020, while we were working on rolling out the Modular Water Systems™ product line, our good friends told us that they had a problem with their mobile home park in Alabama. What's weird, what we found out is that all through the south, trailer parks have very crude sanitation. Basically, all the poop goes into a pond and that's it. It just sits in a pond. If you've ever driven by one of these trailer parks in the south, and you'll see there's a green pond over there, that's what it is.

Dan: The lagoon system is a passive treatment system, has been in operation for about 50 years. Recently, the State of Alabama has imposed certain improvements and permit requirements.

EPA Alabama


RiggsThe Departments of Environmental Protection in Alabama and elsewhere are trying to upgrade everything, and they're requiring landlords to do something about it.

Michael Smith MHP manager


Park Manager:  In 1970, this park was built and the lagoon system was part of it. Over the last four years, it's been real difficult for me to maintain the proper discharge and ist tested once a month. They test for E. Coli. They test for any oxygen levels. They test for any bacteria buildup. The last few years, we have not been able to meet the demands of ADEM, Alabama Department of Environmental Management.

RiggsSo they were going to have to build something themselves. This is what I mean by forced decentralization. More and more businesses are being forced to do their own treatment because the central infrastructure is totally overwhelmed in this country and elsewhere. So, they needed a solution and it so happened that our brilliant Dan Early, the chief engineer, has a great technology.

ceramic biofilm component


DanA porous, low-temperature fired, highly porous ceramic. It can hold 80% of its volume in water.

RiggsThink about putting a coral reef in all these surfaces, and the dirty water comes through and the bacteria just eats it away.


Pondster ceramic sq ft


DanSo if you had a 12-inch, by 12-inch, by 12-inch cube of this material, which is very lightweight, it would have an effective surface area of 900,000 square feet per cubic foot.


Pondster lagoonside 2


RiggsThis product is called the Pondster™, Pond Monster. Over time, you just park it by the side of the pond and run a tube through. Over a period of weeks or months, the pond just becomes clear.

Sewage Lagoon Before-After

The Pondster system, the treatment methodologies and the treatment capabilities that we are promoting, these are going to be next-generation technologies that are going to allow us to deliver much more cost effective treatment solutions and equipment packages to those decentralized customers that need it.


Tom M re MHP

You don't need to wait around with wastewater, just sitting there hoping nature will treat it. Instead, you put a machine there. You put a machine there and you suck the bad water out, and you treat it. You reduce the load of bacterias and contamination in the water, and then you can release good water back to be recycled.

Dan: The decentralized world is the future, when it comes to wastewater. The large, centralized, municipal public utilities, they are committed to the path that they started down a hundred years ago.


Dan 3 things


When you get into regions where they don't have public sewer, but there is a need for a wastewater utility, the decentralization offers us this opportunity to deliver these technologies so that you can accomplish the three things that are most important to decentralize wastewater. First off is affordability. Second thing is sustainability, and the third thing is durability.


CAFO arial


Riggs: I can't wait to showcase this for the rest of the mobile home park industry. Then looking at really heavy pollution, you're looking at animal farms. So, it's becoming a really interesting product of Modular Water Systems.

Dan: When you commit to a decentralized wastewater utility system, you don't want to be thinking five or 10 years. You need to be thinking 50 years, 75 years, 100 years. That is the vision and the mission that we have with the Modular Water Systems Program and products like the Pondster 30K system.

End of video presentation


Ken: Ok, thank you for. Thank you. Look, I love watching that. I think they crystallized it beautifully, but you can see that this Modular Water line is not aspirational, it's operational. It's in place. It's solving problems. What we wanted to do was think above it and provide a layer where that end user could literally take possession of it just by asking. And that's what our Water on Demand strategy exactly does employ. So I just started again. Sorry about that.


Get your Qs answered

Contacting Us

Ok, so the bottom line is we're looking for maybe a few dozen to maybe a hundred people with a pioneer type of mind. If you're an accredited investor, if you're a foreign investor, non-U.S. non-U.S. investor, I'd like you to reach out to me. You can book directly at oc.gold/ ken my team will immediately place you on my calendar. We can set aside a few minutes to chat, maybe up to half an hour, and we can get your questions answered. I'm really anxious to hear your questions.

I also, we're probably the most transparent public company in the world. We have literally a weekly Thursday night meeting at eight o'clock eastern, every Thursday, where we literally meet with all of our investors and we lay out here, guys, here's what's happened this week, and we'd love for you to join us on that CEO briefing. We have one in two nights. It's www.oc.gold/ceo.

And lastly, I want to just get to our I want to thank you and and here's our safe harbor statement. I know that my my presentation went a bit long. We have, you know, just a couple of minutes, if there's any Q&A now, any of you who have questions. So I don't get to answer. Please reach out to me, get on my calendar. Let's sit aside, you know, 20 or 30 minutes and I can lay this out to you in a much more granularity and we can get right to your Q&A session. Anybody have any questions?


Audience Q&A

Show Host:  Yes, Ken. Thank you very much. I did put those the oc.gold/Ken and the oc.gold/CEO. Folks, keep in mind you can go to the virtual booth of Ken's on Monday's show. This replay will be available and all the downloads and the contact info there. We'll get to a couple of questions. We've got about two or three minutes, somebody asking how many water engineers do you have and what or who is your competition?

Ken: Ok. Well, what we do is we have we have a primary design engineer. The idea is, if I understand your question correctly, these are pre engineered so they don't need you don't need an engineer for every, you know, that's the custom build solution, right? These are pre engineered is a prefabricated item that deals with multiple different types of water problems in various sizes. So we don't need an army of engineers. We have some really, really. We have a handful of really phenomenal engineers that have pre engineered this thing to be almost like an Apple phone. You have four different Apple phones. You can just pluck one off the shelf. Ok. There was another question you had for me, Joe.

Show Host: Yeah. Talk to talk about a little about your growth. Somebody mentioned in last year, Piers, last year you did four million in revenue. You talk. Can you talk going out? I mean, obviously when I'm making recommendations, folks, but somebody asking you if you can speak to your growth and what you were looking at for the next 12 to twenty four point thirty six months.

Ken: So far for the year, we have nine point four million dollars in book sales for this year versus, you know, just under what, just about $4 million last year. I don't know how much of that will will translate to recognize revenue in the next couple of quarters, but we're obviously on the right trajectory. A big part of that growth, in my view, is developing this modular water product line, which will be much easier to place, especially with no need to buy it up front.

Host: Hmm. And competitors who can you who are your main competitors?

Ken:  You know, there were the big names, you know, évoqué American water works. These are dealing in the trillion dollar existing water infrastructure business. There are there are plenty of good companies that operate in these small to midsize business.

What we're creating with water on demand is a way to partner with or basically involve ourselves with all of these people who make great innovations and to offer them on this, on this marketplace that we're creating cold water on demand. So what our system essentially does is it turns competitors into colleagues.

Anybody who builds from between, you know, fifty thousand systems, up to a couple of million dollar systems. We want to be able to have them offer their product line as long as it's portable and passes muster with our engineers on this water on demand platform.

Host: Got a couple of people just popped in and folks again get with Ken and his team directly. I'm going to you can answer this question. I'm not going to answer it for you. Will this be done through a private placement and what's the minimum? And then what is your minimum size investment? Now you're publicly trading, right? So go ahead. Yes.

Ken: So it is a private placement. It is a preferred stock offering that converts the common stock at one hundred and fifty percent of your investment, regardless of what the market is at the time of your conversion. So when you invest is not important, that's when you convert.

If you decide if, if the stock is doing wild things and you love it, you want to convert and enjoy the upside. You can do that. If the stock is flat, you're converting both times, you're converting a 50 percent over and above your principal amount.

Accredited investors, I don't really tell you, well, look for you to play with this offering. You have to do X. I do have one hundred thousand units. I will say I have million dollar investors today that started with a fraction of that, you know, but we delivered, you know, we kept communicating with them and we were able to deliver on what we said we were going to do. And now there's some of our largest investors today. So if if the idea makes sense, if you like the idea, let's sit down and talk.

Host:  Terrific, Ken. Thank you. We are out of time. We want to thank you for your insights and really interesting technology. There are some other folks that ask questions, so get with Ken and his team one on one. You can find them through the virtual booth that they have on Moneyshow.com. And of course, you can reach him at Ken@OriginClear.com as well. And in the chat box you can you could set up, you know, one on one sessions with him, but I urge you people to do that.

Ken, again, thanks to you and your team for joining us, and we want to thank all the attendees for this session and for all the sessions. These have been phenomenally successful over the last two years, so keep your comments, feedback and suggestion coming to us.

And last but not least, we'll be back at a live event. February twenty four to twenty six. It's the Traders Expo, probably the biggest traders event of the year. There'll be a lot of traders, a lot of high net worth people there. So come see us live February twenty four to twenty six in Las Vegas again. Ken, thank you. We appreciate you and folks. Thank you and have a great afternoon and a great day. Go ahead. Are you going to say something, Ken?

Ken: Yes. John Costello, Bob Estes: These are complicated answers, so reach out to me. I'll be happy to answer them. I don't want to leave you hanging, but we're out of time, so I do want to give you my undivided attention. Okay, go to oc.gold/ken.

Host: Got it. Ok, thank you very much. Yeah, go to the booth. Get with him and he'll  be happy to answer any questions. And again, folks, thank you all for participating. Have a great afternoon and a great rest of your week. Thanks again, everybody.

End of presentation


Riggs: Well, there we go, so I think it worked pretty well can for your having seen this slide show literally minutes before it was live, right?

Ken: And that end piece looked like Max Headroom with the jerky... reminded me, from the 80s music videos. But no, look, it was. They did a really super professional job of post-production on the video. They were terrific. I see the money show as a regular monthly outreach to to the community. I think it will be very, very effective.

Riggs: Excellent. And if some people raise their hands, I just want to let you know that you can do the chat. So I've just just typed that to everyone.

Ken: So what? I'm excited. Just the attendees. I'm sorry, the stories.

Riggs: So, yeah, so well done. And when is the next virtual show?

Ken: They're running about once a month, so I would look at probably the end of the first week early second week of November. I'll get a date, I'll get a date certain and we'll announce that probably in the next week.

Riggs: JRW says, good evening, thanks. Great job, Ken. Yes, no, definitely that was well done. So just moving on here.


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And be sure to fill out your survey. We do carefully read the surveys that come in and we look forward to seeing you next week. By the way, we're in the works on a good sort of Mission Impossible type intro to get people up to speed. Yeah, Devin says actually 158 people attended the money show real time, as I was saying earlier on, and that is compared to my experience where there's like 30 in a room. It's amazing. So that was brilliant.



Thank you all. And well, let's see. And then. Ivan has this week PhilanthroInvestors, the Happy Homes podcast, will be discussing OriginClear, so we look forward to being able to report it on that next week.

Thank you everyone for having been on board. It's been great. You guys are the best, best audience we could hope for. Thank you for helping us sharpen our story over the months and the four stages of synergy, as I call them, are you will see them soon on our web site. So thank you all. Have a great weekend.

JRW: "Can we get an update on investment for non-accredited?" Good question. We are still working out whether we can. The SEC is not exactly tolerant of people doing crypto, but we expect to have an offering for unaccredited investors, which we will be happy to let you know that is being worked out as I speak. So JRW., just if you'll have a couple of weeks more patience, I think you'll be very happy with the outcome. All right. I'm going to switch off video now and have a great weekend. See you next week and keep up the tremendous support.

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